The Price of Diesel
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- Turbo Charger
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It doesn't look like the higher diesel price is going to stop anytime soon specially in the U.S. where taxes are higher on diesel than gasoline. Here's the Industries take on it that is hard to poke holes in. Oh maybe pin holes.
http://www.api.org/aboutoilgas/diesel/u ... prices.pdf
http://www.api.org/aboutoilgas/diesel/u ... prices.pdf
99 TDI Jetta (Z1 engine code)
94 Grand Caravan
89 Dodge Gold Stream B class
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94 Grand Caravan
89 Dodge Gold Stream B class
http://www.antiquedollhouseofpatterns.ca/
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Here unleaded is $1.49 and diesel is still at $2.29, im very affraid that this large difference will slow or even stop the new acura,subaru and F150 diesel options that were headed our way next year.
I even parked my golf, put it up on blocks, removed the insurance and am driveing the gasser as its $0.02 cents a mile cheaper to drive and a million times more modern- sad but true
I even parked my golf, put it up on blocks, removed the insurance and am driveing the gasser as its $0.02 cents a mile cheaper to drive and a million times more modern- sad but true
90' Toyota X cab 4x4
02' Honda civic
85' VW Golf Diesel Project
95' dodge 12v cummins
13' VW Passat TDI DSG
02' Honda civic
85' VW Golf Diesel Project
95' dodge 12v cummins
13' VW Passat TDI DSG
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It's not the higher taxes that's causing the difference in price, it's refinery costs. Check this out. ~10c/gallon in terms of refinery costs for gasoline, and ~50c/gallon in terms of refinery costs for diesel. This isn't solely the extra cost of ULSD. In fact, based on what I've read, it's mostly crappy crack spreads for gasoline, so in order to make a profit refiners have increased the crack spread for other products like diesel since the demand for it is consistent compared to gasoline.surfcam wrote:It doesn't look like the higher diesel price is going to stop anytime soon specially in the U.S. where taxes are higher on diesel than gasoline.
Around thanksgiving I test drove a 2003 Golf TDi .A mile out I turned around in a local gas station Diesel had a substantial drop in the Hudson Valley around Poughkeepsie from almost $4 to $2.99;
It continues to inch down as Regular inches up.
Around Valentines Day 2009 I can find it around $2.49 on this(East ) side of the Hudson. Across the Hudson, I see it for $2.37 in NY if I cross the state line to NJ it drops to $2.15; Hess stations generally get $2.59 Both sides of the Hudson.My Nearest station just dropped to$2.59
It continues to inch down as Regular inches up.
Around Valentines Day 2009 I can find it around $2.49 on this(East ) side of the Hudson. Across the Hudson, I see it for $2.37 in NY if I cross the state line to NJ it drops to $2.15; Hess stations generally get $2.59 Both sides of the Hudson.My Nearest station just dropped to$2.59
Last edited by wild3bill on Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:19 am, edited 1 time in total.
Wild3Bill
Lower Hudson Valley NY
2011 BMW 335d turbo Diesel
2003 Golf GLS TDi in the shop
1998 TDi Bug in the back yard
81 Rabbit Pickup " " "
97 ChevyK2500 . 6.5TD 4
John Deere 455
Koubota BX24 Diesel lawn mower w/back hoe & loader
Lower Hudson Valley NY
2011 BMW 335d turbo Diesel
2003 Golf GLS TDi in the shop
1998 TDi Bug in the back yard
81 Rabbit Pickup " " "
97 ChevyK2500 . 6.5TD 4
John Deere 455
Koubota BX24 Diesel lawn mower w/back hoe & loader
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- Turbo Charger
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Finally diesel is cheaper than gas in Alberta anyway. 82.4 vs 79.9 a liter for diesel. Fuel is right off the radar screen for now. It almost looks normal again. But wait I'm sure it will raise it's ugly head in the not to distant future. With all the cut backs in exploration and production that are happening 150 a barrel will be cheap going two to three years out in IMHO. Some of the small oil and service companies are down to a 10th to a 5th of there values. Who will enter the stock ticker casino.
99 TDI Jetta (Z1 engine code)
94 Grand Caravan
89 Dodge Gold Stream B class
http://www.antiquedollhouseofpatterns.ca/
94 Grand Caravan
89 Dodge Gold Stream B class
http://www.antiquedollhouseofpatterns.ca/
diesel below $2.00/gal
Yesterday diesel dipped in price to $1.979 per gallon. Regular gas is at $1.799. I'm in Western Michigan. It won't last. I suspect these low prices are simply plenty of supply and very little demand.
'89 Jetta 2-dr gasser converted to 1.6L NA
'04 Jetta TDI GLS Platinium
'87 F350 dually 7.3 future project
'79 Mainship Perkins T6.354
'04 Jetta TDI GLS Platinium
'87 F350 dually 7.3 future project
'79 Mainship Perkins T6.354
Hudsob Valley Diesel prices
Over night a couple of Stations Dropped from $2.49 to $2.45
Wild3Bill
Lower Hudson Valley NY
2011 BMW 335d turbo Diesel
2003 Golf GLS TDi in the shop
1998 TDi Bug in the back yard
81 Rabbit Pickup " " "
97 ChevyK2500 . 6.5TD 4
John Deere 455
Koubota BX24 Diesel lawn mower w/back hoe & loader
Lower Hudson Valley NY
2011 BMW 335d turbo Diesel
2003 Golf GLS TDi in the shop
1998 TDi Bug in the back yard
81 Rabbit Pickup " " "
97 ChevyK2500 . 6.5TD 4
John Deere 455
Koubota BX24 Diesel lawn mower w/back hoe & loader
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I paid under $2,...
$1.99
I've been waiting for it to get below $2 for awhile but it's been hovering just above that around here.
$1.99
I've been waiting for it to get below $2 for awhile but it's been hovering just above that around here.
'91 Golf gasser converted to a 12mm pump, M-TDI.
'84 1.6TD Rabbit with a VNT-15 turbo, still setup to run on vegetable oil.
'84 GTI with 1.7TD pistons and intercooled.
2003 TDI wagon
2000 TDI Jetta.
'84 1.6TD Rabbit with a VNT-15 turbo, still setup to run on vegetable oil.
'84 GTI with 1.7TD pistons and intercooled.
2003 TDI wagon
2000 TDI Jetta.