...Every time I make a static timing measurement, the dynamic timing advances slightly! Why?:shock:
My pump is more advanced dynamically than most, because I've discovered something is missing from my pump. What?
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Every time I make a static timing measurement, the dynamic timing advances slightly! Why?:shock:
My pump is more advanced dynamically than most, because I've discovered something is missing from my pump. What?
...Every time I make a static timing measurement, the dynamic timing advances slightly! Why?:shock:
My pump is more advanced dynamically than most, because I've discovered something is missing from my pump. What?
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hmmm, every time he measures the static timing,
That's with a dial gauge right?
the dynamic timing advances slightly.
hmmmmm???
A missing shim could advance timing dynamically
That's with a dial gauge right?
the dynamic timing advances slightly.
hmmmmm???
A missing shim could advance timing dynamically
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key between injection pump shaft and pully?
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Yo ho h'mm.
Only 2 answers in 30 odd peeks
No-one yet with answer I seeks
This might help; A rule of thumb;
Never had the pump completely undone.
Only 2 answers in 30 odd peeks
No-one yet with answer I seeks
This might help; A rule of thumb;
Never had the pump completely undone.
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ARRRG!!! This is killin' me!
All I can think of is the timing advance spring is missing but that better not be, it would full advance all the time and wouldn't sound too good
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I probly won't sleep tonight.
All I can think of is the timing advance spring is missing but that better not be, it would full advance all the time and wouldn't sound too good
.I probly won't sleep tonight.
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Sleepless in Alaska?rabbit_man wrote:ARRRG!!! This is killin' me!
All I can think of is the timing advance spring but that better not be it full advance all the time wouldn't sound good
I probly won't sleep tonight.
Probably too warm due to G.W'ing
Throw off some of your bearskins and sleep in your bare skin
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There's a clue in my recent rants;rabbit_man wrote:-45F this morning, doesn't sound like G W to me.I wish I had a bearskin.
More hints???
All I have to say is; I was torquing about 'small potatoes'
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Who sees the worms from outside of the can.
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Who sees the worms from outside of the can.
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Whilst I'm pleased with the few who've had a stab at my puzzle, the lack of other braincells is disappointing. Perhaps its the festive spirit.
I'll leave it a few more days before I give the answer.
To recap:
After I make each static timing measurement, my dynamic timing will advance slightly.
My pump is advanced dynamically more than most because I have discovered something missing from my pump.
I have not accessed internals as such.
You will all experience the same thing, if you do not take a simple precaution.
It is not detrimental to the car and may imperceptably [sp] improve things at higher speed.
Perhaps its the festive spirit.I'll leave it a few more days before I give the answer.
To recap:
After I make each static timing measurement, my dynamic timing will advance slightly.
My pump is advanced dynamically more than most because I have discovered something missing from my pump.
I have not accessed internals as such.
You will all experience the same thing, if you do not take a simple precaution.
It is not detrimental to the car and may imperceptably [sp] improve things at higher speed.
"I'm not here to help... I'm here to Pro-Volke"
Be like meeee...Drive a Quantum TD
...The best work-horse after the cart...
Quantae grow on you...but Rabbits are like roses...
... girls like em ;o)
Only one Darwin, Einstein, Poe and Verne.
That is why if you listen, you will learn:
From the one and only Quantum-man,
Who sees the worms from outside of the can.
7 Quantae in 20 years; 4 dead and 3 TD's still alive [2 wagons & 1 fastback] oh and a GTD)
Be like meeee...Drive a Quantum TD
...The best work-horse after the cart...
Quantae grow on you...but Rabbits are like roses...
... girls like em ;o)
Only one Darwin, Einstein, Poe and Verne.
That is why if you listen, you will learn:
From the one and only Quantum-man,
Who sees the worms from outside of the can.
7 Quantae in 20 years; 4 dead and 3 TD's still alive [2 wagons & 1 fastback] oh and a GTD
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A nooB takes a stab...
The stop-bracket is missing from the cold-start lever.
The stop-bracket is missing from the cold-start lever.
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YepMizPahPAH wrote:Hey Mark
You are saying that you are only making a timing "measurement"
not actually making an adjustment?
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Be like meeee...Drive a Quantum TD
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Quantae grow on you...but Rabbits are like roses...
... girls like em ;o)
Only one Darwin, Einstein, Poe and Verne.
That is why if you listen, you will learn:
From the one and only Quantum-man,
Who sees the worms from outside of the can.
7 Quantae in 20 years; 4 dead and 3 TD's still alive [2 wagons & 1 fastback] oh and a GTD)
Be like meeee...Drive a Quantum TD
...The best work-horse after the cart...
Quantae grow on you...but Rabbits are like roses...
... girls like em ;o)
Only one Darwin, Einstein, Poe and Verne.
That is why if you listen, you will learn:
From the one and only Quantum-man,
Who sees the worms from outside of the can.
7 Quantae in 20 years; 4 dead and 3 TD's still alive [2 wagons & 1 fastback] oh and a GTD
)OK, let's think about this a little. When the injection pressure rises to the point where the injector "pops off" the fuel is injected into the cylinder. So for the dynamic timing of the pump to advance, the injection pressure would have to reach that point sooner in the cycle, therefore popping off the injector sooner.
If the washer under the timing access bolt on the back of the pump were missing, the volume of the chamber where the fuel is compressed by the piston would be reduced slightly. The injector pop-off pressure would be reached earlier in the piston's stroke, therefore advancing the dynamic timing slightly.
TonyB
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If the washer under the timing access bolt on the back of the pump were missing, the volume of the chamber where the fuel is compressed by the piston would be reduced slightly. The injector pop-off pressure would be reached earlier in the piston's stroke, therefore advancing the dynamic timing slightly.
TonyB
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