Valve spring help!

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Valve spring help!

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I had a timing belt break on my '84 TD Jetta which remarkably only ended up bending a couple valves and breaking off half of a valve shim bucket inside the valve chamber. I took the head off and had the valves replaced but they left the broken piece of the bucket in the valve chamber. I bought a valve spring compressor but can't figure out how to release the spring so I can take it out and reach down in there. I can get the spring down about an inch or so (the compressor doesn't work very well) and I can see a floating cone-shaped spring stop at the top of the stem, which I'm guessing is what I need to remove somehow, but looking at it while the spring is compressed it I can't see how it's done. I'd love some help! Thanks a lot. - Jeff
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Are you saying that there is a piece of bucket behind the valve head?
Can you not compress the springs and remove the collets, by putting piston at TDC?
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Quantum-man wrote:by putting piston at TDC?
Very good point! Or, you have to pressurize the cylinder so the valve doesn't fall into the cylinder when you take the spring off.
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I think I just need to know how to take off the collets! I couldn't see how to do it when I had the spring compressed.
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The valve needs to stay in the closed position, and stick up out of the retainer before the keepers can come out.
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Jerffry wrote:I think I just need to know how to take off the collets! I couldn't see how to do it when I had the spring compressed.
A little magnet-on-a-stick works really really well at convincing those metal keepers to release their death-grip on the sides of the valve stem.
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Vincent Waldon wrote:A little magnet-on-a-stick works really really well at convincing those metal keepers to release their death-grip on the sides of the valve stem.
I've never gotten this far into an OHC engine, but anytime I work on a US domestic engine, I use a magnet on top of the valve as Vince says and knock the keepers loose. If it's anything like a US domestic engine (with the valvespring held on by a retainer which is held on by the clips), I use an impact socket to fit over the valve and onto the retainer and smack it really hard with a hammer to try to loosen the retainer from the keepers.
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Post by Jerffry »

Thanks everybody! There ended up not being a magnetic connector for the collets on my model... FYI for anyone who cares. On to the next problem!
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