replacement struts and springs.

bbob203 · Post by **bbob203** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:54 pm

what brands are you guys running?
what brand of springs?

FineFrank · Post by **FineFrank** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:29 pm

I'm running Bilstein HD's front and rear, and replacement springs and spring seats from an '85 on the front. It lifted the front about 2 inches. The rear is next; it'll get the same treatment (springs, that is).

bbob203 · Post by **bbob203** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:33 pm

how do those ride pretty smooth? hows the handling? how do the comepate to the touring class?

FineFrank · Post by **FineFrank** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:59 pm

The HD's are much firmer than the Sachs struts I had previously. I'd recommend KYB's or the Touring struts if you're looking for a smoother ride. The HD's handle great, at the cost of a plush ride.

bbob203 · Post by **bbob203** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:20 am

bump for opinions on munroe sensa trac springs.

also has anyone messed with the heavy duty springs made for if you carry a lot of weight in the trunk? was thinking about getting them because i often times carry up to six glass carboys full of water back there( somewhere around 50 lbs a piece) and it rides super low my current springs are definitely toast though.

FineFrank · Post by **FineFrank** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:56 am

I'd pass them by and save up for KYB's.
I put a couple sets of Monroe shocks on various vehicles, and while they work pretty good for a while, they don't tend to last as long as KYB's or Bilsteins. Sachs lower end shocks and inserts are in the same class, AFAIC.
The sad thing is that I spent the same $ for the Monroe Sensatracs on the back of my bunny as a set of KYB's. Go figure.

If you're going to be carrying lots of weight in the back on a frequent basis, a set of Bilstein HD's would serve you very well. Three hundred pounds is a bunch, although the HD's might be overkill if you carry heavy stuff infrequently.
You might investigate installing springs out of a '85-'92 Golf, as it will add around 4" to your bunny's stance. I have them on the front and back, and they've been a big help, especially in the snow.

TylerDurden · Post by **TylerDurden** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:23 am

KYBs all around. Seem pretty good.

I ghetto-jacked my Jetta by putting the rear perches ~3 inches higher. Not pretty, but I don't bottom out.
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bbob203 · Post by **bbob203** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:19 am

could i do the fix tyler came up with if im just looking for a bandaid for the time being with my saggy back end?

heres what im working with only things in trunk currently is a tool box with tools spare tire and a spare battery someone gave me.

FineFrank · Post by **FineFrank** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:20 pm

[quote="bbob203"]could i do the fix tyler came up with if im just looking for a bandaid for the time being with my saggy back end?

heres what im working with only things in trunk currently is a tool box with tools spare tire and a spare battery someone gave me.

You certainly could. I'd forgotten about Tyler's mod (brilliant, BTW), but it's pretty easy to do and accomplishes pretty much the same thing a spring change would.
You need it, too. I was in the same boat, had my tools, small alligator jack, and spare fluids in the back, and it was way too low.
Go for it, and post your pics.
But go with the KYB's, you'll be happy you did.

bbob203 · Post by **bbob203** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:36 pm

thanks for the info ill post some pics whenever i get the job done hopefully this weekend. bought some front strut mounts, ball joints, tie rod ends and sway bar links. i think im gonna throw in the front mounts and do this mod this weekend do the other stuff some other time soon. think im going to have to throw in a couple wheel bearings in the front. i might cut the couplers down to raise it up 2 inches instead of 3 thats a bit much for me lol.

the vegenator · Post by **the vegenator** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:39 pm

So, in general, raising the car with washers or pipe/spring seat provides just as good a ride as with new springs? I had considered buying the pair of preassembled strut/spring columns from that other parts website, but $200 is a hefty price to pay for a comfortable ride, esp if I can just get new struts and raise the springs up a bit.

TylerDurden · Post by **TylerDurden** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:58 am

3" lift resulted in about 1" higher than level, in my case.

The ride seems about the same as new springs, but the travel is 3" less.

the vegenator · Post by **the vegenator** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:52 pm

ever heard of anyone breaking a spring from overloading? that was my fear when I had my car packed to the brim (back seat and trunk) with heavy tools.

the man 53 · Post by **the man 53** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 6:59 am

no but I ripped the axle beam out from my 83 GTI. Had 500 lbs in the trunk and maybe a hundred or so in the back seat. One good hole in a township road and that was the end of it.

bbob203 · Post by **bbob203** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:47 am

can anyone tell me the difference between the kyb 343280 and the kyb 343191 ?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KYB-343280/

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KYB-343191/

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