Can you tell me how I might find the year of my engine?
I have purchased a 1986 Suzuki Samurai with the 1.6 liter diesel conversion.
Engine Year
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Re: Engine Year
Probably, the best you are going to do is tell what the two-letter code is that is stamped at the top-front flat tab located in front of #4 cylinder. Could be like CR, CK. JK, ME, MF. The numerical stamps after the letter-code are not helpful.
For instance: a JK would be '83 or '84. ME would be '85 or '86. MF could span probably 3 years or so, etc. The year doesn't mean squat really. Letter code can sure make a diff. though.
For instance: a JK would be '83 or '84. ME would be '85 or '86. MF could span probably 3 years or so, etc. The year doesn't mean squat really. Letter code can sure make a diff. though.
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Re: Engine Year
If you can read the code and number, you can find age of production to the nearest month.
Division of production quantity by month length could get you within a week
Division of production quantity by month length could get you within a week
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Re: Engine Year
Show an example of that with verifiable documentation.
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Re: Engine Year
Prairieview wrote:Show an example of that with verifiable documentation.
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If so, give me one of your engine codes from a car of yours and I'll tell you the month of it's engine's manufacture, Probably could do it for the body too, but I won't as that seems a little intrusive somehow...
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Re: Engine Year
H'mmm....
Kiger give me your block code "ME1111", CY2222 etc and I'll answer your question.
Just to prove the point, that the serial number is important, someone who has their VW engine from new can give me their block number, and I'll date it...
Kiger give me your block code "ME1111", CY2222 etc and I'll answer your question.
Just to prove the point, that the serial number is important, someone who has their VW engine from new can give me their block number, and I'll date it...
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Re: Engine Year
Simply explain the numerical system.
There is no need for a specific number. Just verbalize how it is read.
There is no need for a specific number. Just verbalize how it is read.
Re: Engine Year
While this doesn't answer the date code number question, here's a nice chart on the engine codes and engine specifics.
http://www.a2resource.com/eandt/allengines.html
http://www.a2resource.com/eandt/engines.html
http://www.a2resource.com/eandt/allengines.html
http://www.a2resource.com/eandt/engines.html
Everybody else lists their cars here - but not me.
I have too many to count
I have too many to count
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Re: Engine Year
Prairieview wrote:Simply explain the numerical system.
There is no need for a specific number. Just verbalize how it is read.
? You mean:
CY 1234 Means casting style 068.... designated CY at assembly
1234 means the one thousand two hundred and thirty fourth block constructed for the designation CY. The CY example actually straddled the shimmed/hydro period, and so had several different 068... casting styles.
MF never replaced CY in the UK, so CY lasted 6 years here, but did in the Americas, and I believe one of the subtle differences was the casting around the head bolts, presumably stronger, but also bored deeper for greater bolt end clearance. Not sure on that for the MF, but definitely for the SB/RA range...
OK, I guess what you want me to say is that the number links to a date... Well it does. VW lists the number of production reached at the end of each month for every engine in production. Thus your proclamation that the number is meaningless is completely and utterly wrong.
The 068.... numbers are harder to use because they covered long time periods, length partly determined by success of the part, or even if VAG decided upon a code change for the hell of it.
Someone gimme a number...
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Re: Engine Year
Ok So I was just trying to be helpful to the thread owner. He's probably wondered off having been given wrong info.
Any way I'm no fool as those who have read my posts know, so here goes. I've just spent a while trying to clean off my block code. Trying to read it without taking off the upper rad hose/ cylinderhead outlet is a nightmare...
My number is CY138959. My car is last of the Quantum production, registered 1987.5 to 1988.5.
However, I took it out of a car that was original, and 85.5 to 86.5.
VW lists to the end of November 1984 CY140375.
to the end of October 1984 CY138603.... I make that 1772 engines
138959-138603 is 356 engines into the month 356/1772 is 0.2 or a 1/5th into the month.
Assuming linear work rate and no weekends, 22 working days in the month, and 0.2 x 22 is 4.4 days. I make that my engine was made just before lunch time on Wed 7th November 1984. It took between 6-18 months to sell
Incidentally Dec 1st 1984 sees new CY codes with a 3 prefix, where the 1 was, which I assume is the start of the hydro engines, or they upped the work rate to 200000 engines to get good Christmas bonuses
Any way I'm no fool as those who have read my posts know, so here goes. I've just spent a while trying to clean off my block code. Trying to read it without taking off the upper rad hose/ cylinderhead outlet is a nightmare...
My number is CY138959. My car is last of the Quantum production, registered 1987.5 to 1988.5.
However, I took it out of a car that was original, and 85.5 to 86.5.
VW lists to the end of November 1984 CY140375.
to the end of October 1984 CY138603.... I make that 1772 engines
138959-138603 is 356 engines into the month 356/1772 is 0.2 or a 1/5th into the month.
Assuming linear work rate and no weekends, 22 working days in the month, and 0.2 x 22 is 4.4 days. I make that my engine was made just before lunch time on Wed 7th November 1984. It took between 6-18 months to sell
Incidentally Dec 1st 1984 sees new CY codes with a 3 prefix, where the 1 was, which I assume is the start of the hydro engines, or they upped the work rate to 200000 engines to get good Christmas bonuses
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That is why if you listen, you will learn:
From the one and only Quantum-man,
Who sees the worms from outside of the can.
7 Quantae in 20 years; 4 dead and 3 TD's still alive [2 wagons & 1 fastback] oh and a GTD)
Be like meeee...Drive a Quantum TD
...The best work-horse after the cart...
Quantae grow on you...but Rabbits are like roses...
... girls like em ;o)
Only one Darwin, Einstein, Poe and Verne.
That is why if you listen, you will learn:
From the one and only Quantum-man,
Who sees the worms from outside of the can.
7 Quantae in 20 years; 4 dead and 3 TD's still alive [2 wagons & 1 fastback] oh and a GTD
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I have found this number.
I am not sure if I am looking in the right place
068 103 373 WWO
57 Germany
I have attached a picture of where I am looking.
I am not sure if I am looking in the right place
068 103 373 WWO
57 Germany
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Re: Engine Year
I'll try looking that up. If your photo had been 3" to the right you could have determined hydro or shimmed valves, and so could have dated it pre or post 1985ish.
The number location you need is on the block along from your photo and under the side water outlet.
The number location you need is on the block along from your photo and under the side water outlet.
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Quantae grow on you...but Rabbits are like roses...
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That is why if you listen, you will learn:
From the one and only Quantum-man,
Who sees the worms from outside of the can.
7 Quantae in 20 years; 4 dead and 3 TD's still alive [2 wagons & 1 fastback] oh and a GTD)
Be like meeee...Drive a Quantum TD
...The best work-horse after the cart...
Quantae grow on you...but Rabbits are like roses...
... girls like em ;o)
Only one Darwin, Einstein, Poe and Verne.
That is why if you listen, you will learn:
From the one and only Quantum-man,
Who sees the worms from outside of the can.
7 Quantae in 20 years; 4 dead and 3 TD's still alive [2 wagons & 1 fastback] oh and a GTD
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Here is another pic of the engine.
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I think I have narrowed it down to a 1980 or 1981.
Does this number mean anything to anyone? G13A_1324CC
Does this number mean anything to anyone? G13A_1324CC