Injector Pump Bracket Question

[DrAnonymous]

On my 1.6 IP bracket, there are two holes on the top with welded on nuts. The bottom IP hole is just, well a hole. The bentley manual looks like there should be three welded nuts.

Anyone have guidance?

Either way, I know that spot is a pain.

[fj40dave]

I have three nutplates on the 1.6 I rebuilt....



ps: can anyone see what rookie mistake I made during the reassembly?

[coke]

On the later ones, I do believe there is no 3rd welded nut. The bottom bolt is a stud welded or attached to a small bracket, you have to put a nut on it. The top two bolts thread into the bracket. The earlier design was far superior, IMHO, as I never had any issues with it. However with the later A2 design I've actually accidentely overtorqued the bottom and ended up breaking things.

[Caerbannog]

ps: can anyone see what rookie mistake I made during the reassembly?

If that motor is going into a transverse mount (Rabbit/Golf/Jetta), the stud for the belt tensioner should be left out, as you'll never get a tensioner on with it in place.

That, and hopefully your crank is at or near #1 TDC (from the cam orientation). "Mr. Valve, please meet Mr. Piston. Mr. Piston, I present Mr. Valve".

P.S. Looks like a nice job on the glowplug pimping.

[DrAnonymous]

Well....nuts I guess. Mine doesn't have the third welded and it didn't appear that one used to be there. I don't have any bracket with a stud welded to it either. I grabbed a metric bolt and planned on making sure I got the clearance right and then putting it on with a nut. You can access the head via the holes in the IP pulley.

Thanks for the great photo.

[coke]

No the stud isn't welded to the bracket, its welded to a short piece of thin metal that goes in the bottom IP hole and connects up to the top where a bolt goes through. Too hard to explain. Its not part of the IP bracket, its part of the hardware that holds the IP into the bracket.

[TylerDurden]

Another variation is one welded nut at the front and two bolts (or studs) held by bent metal brackets:



One bracket reaches over the top, the other down to the bottom:


Even those are a pain to align when replacing the IP.

[coke]

Yeah ,thats the setup I was taking about. Been a while since I touched it.

[fj40dave]

ps: can anyone see what rookie mistake I made during the reassembly?

If that motor is going into a transverse mount (Rabbit/Golf/Jetta), the stud for the belt tensioner should be left out, as you'll never get a tensioner on with it in place.

That, and hopefully your crank is at or near #1 TDC (from the cam orientation). "Mr. Valve, please meet Mr. Piston. Mr. Piston, I present Mr. Valve".

P.S. Looks like a nice job on the glowplug pimping.

Couldn't you just take the IP mount plate off, weld a nut to it, and have a "fix"? (I think it's what I would do.....not having the wisdom others have here)

It's going in a 1980 Dasher....front wheel drive, but the engine/tranny are installed like a rear wheel drive vehicle.

No one has caught the goof I did....yet! It was an easy fix, and very obvious once I installed another item that sit's to the drivers side.

Here's a link to photobucket on the whole process so far. At this point, the lighting system is the biggest problem.....short to ground somewhere in the headlight/parking light system.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v326/ ... %20Dasher/

[Dakotakid]

If you end up substituting a bolt anywhere among those three spots, make SURE that the bolt you chose is only long enough to secure the nut and really no more.

Why? Because as the engine/pump build rpm, the pulley on the pump is actually drawn toward the pump with inertia. And if you have a bolt remotely too long, it will ground out on the back of the pulley (at speed) and destroy the shaft/bushings in your pump. Don't believe me? Where would you lke me to send the pump for inspection?

[Fatmobile]

Yeah, that's an old 1.5 bracket,.. the alternator bracket will have to match it so they can bolt together correctly.
It is a pain to get a bolt under the pump so they made it so a nut from the sprocket side will hold it in place.

[82vdub]

ps: can anyone see what rookie mistake I made during the reassembly?

Missing alternator bracket?

[fj40dave]

ps: can anyone see what rookie mistake I made during the reassembly?

Missing alternator bracket?

Nope.....other side of the motor

[Fatmobile]

It's missing the 2 allen head bracket bolts to the left, forgot to post that last time, ha.

[fj40dave]

Ok....here is my goof-up....