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Dallas
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1.6 block

Post by Dallas »

Well, I finally found out why my wabbit is leaking oil into the coolant. The block is cracked in at least 3 places. What are the possible chances of anyone haveing a diesel block that needs rebuilding. I just did this one about 15-20,000 miles ago. I am thinking I can get another block, bore it and put in my parts with a new set of rings and bearings. Does anyone close to ND have a block they can part with fairly cheap??
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Post by Fatmobile »

Sent a PM to a guy in Minot,
who was selling some TD blocks.
'91 Golf gasser converted to a 12mm pump, M-TDI.
'84 1.6TD Rabbit with a VNT-15 turbo, still setup to run on vegetable oil.
'84 GTI with 1.7TD pistons and intercooled.
2003 TDI wagon
2000 TDI Jetta.
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Post by Dakotakid »

You probably will want one with 11 mm head bolts?
The center-core beam melter has been given a new lease.
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1.6 block

Post by Dallas »

I currently have a 11mm block, but seeing as how the general concensis is that they are 'junk' I would take a 12mm instead. My cylinder head will fit on both with the exception of a hydraulic lifter engine.
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coke

Post by coke »

Your cylinder head will fit if you drill the bolt holes out. But not w/out doing that.
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Post by Gecko »

Did you ever get a price and source for the 1.6 N/A block that is compatible with the 12mm head bolts?

I am looking for similar on the west coast.

Thanks
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1.6 block

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I talked to a place in Minneapolis this past week that had one and they wanted $400. for it. I think I will do some more digging around. It is not real high priority just now. If I can find one for around $200 that would be great. I know a salvage yard owner that has quite a few, but I am thinking most are 1.5. Will have to do some checking on this. Need to look up bore/stroke etc before I go out there.
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Stolen from VWCaddy's website, w/out his permission ;)

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Post by Gecko »

I found a few options but nothing with the 12mm head bolts yet except a long block for $800.

Any other leads for me to check?

thx
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No, I think I will put this on the back burner for a while. I am out of work right now and need a job first.
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Post by bscutt »

FWIW I have a 12mm block in my garage that looks decent but the crankshaft is bad - the keyway for the pulley wallowed out. The block appears to be fine though. I had entertained the thought of rebuilding but I have too many other projects. Shipping to the West Coast could be prohibitive though.
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Post by Fatmobile »

Seee, the 1.6s have the same crank nose/key problem as the 1.9.
I've seen this several times,.. time for the d-sprocket.

Not being in a hurry to find a block means an affordable one will probably fall in your lap.
'91 Golf gasser converted to a 12mm pump, M-TDI.
'84 1.6TD Rabbit with a VNT-15 turbo, still setup to run on vegetable oil.
'84 GTI with 1.7TD pistons and intercooled.
2003 TDI wagon
2000 TDI Jetta.
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Post by Gecko »

Found a long block for $300.

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There are a couple of other 12mm bolt up heads that looked good. I didn't check the decks but no visible cracks.

Also a couple of injector pumps and various parts.

Seattle/Tacoma area
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Post by Fatmobile »

No visible cracks usually means the head is straight.
'91 Golf gasser converted to a 12mm pump, M-TDI.
'84 1.6TD Rabbit with a VNT-15 turbo, still setup to run on vegetable oil.
'84 GTI with 1.7TD pistons and intercooled.
2003 TDI wagon
2000 TDI Jetta.
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Post by Quantum TD »

$300 is a fair price for a German block.

People tend not to believe me, but I personally think that the German blocks are much better alloy than the Brazilian blocks (usually the 1.6 11mm blocks and the 1.6 12mm blocks uses on USA Rabbits). Every 11mm block I ever had needed a complete bore and oversize pistons regardless of mileage. I've had several German blocks that only needed a re-ring. Maybe you'll get lucky and only need a re-ring.
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